I end up being on set opposite Ryan Reynolds in a movie called Just Friends. It was the first thing I'd ever booked my first edition. And what I realized, and I was like struggling with an eating disorder at the time, is that you have to be so present to be an actor.
You can't be in the past, you can't be in the future. You have to be in that moment. And it kind of like saved my life a little bit in the sense of the art of being an actor and the training of being an actor is the art of being in the present moment. Wow. And so anything that's pulling you into your baggage or your habit body or something that's false will read false on camera.
And so it's a really, and people think like, oh, you're going to be an actor. You're going to be someone else. You're really in this deep dive of like, how much can I strip away so I can add another nervous system to my body? So then I go into. Like 16 years of training of being an actor. So much rejection.
There's times I would give up. Hey, welcome back. We are doing a joint podcast today with the Wildly Wealthy Woman Podcast, Ann the Icons podcast by West Rose Media, and we have an exciting announcement that we have been working diligently on, so make sure you stay to the end. Yeah. We're gonna do an interview first with a local Calgary celebrity, and then we're gonna talk a little bit about how to make all your trainings come true and make more money doing it.
I can't wait. Dina. Hot and rich. I can't wait. Let's go. Let's go. Welcome back to the podcast. I am with a dear friend and local celebrity, Jillian Wal, you're, you're a local celebrity. I'm so excited to have you here today, Jill. If you guys don't know Jill, she is the founder of Young Actors hq. Augh National Vice President and recently in the new Colleen Hoover movie, reminders of him.
Is that correct? Is that all the thing? Yeah, that's all the things. I am so excited to have you here, Jill, because I like to interview what I call unconventional women and women that build businesses differently, raise their kids differently, look at wellness differently, and you are just that woman. Have you really forged your own path?
And, uh, I'm really excited for people to get to know you today on the podcast. But before we begin, I owe you a big thank you. Oh. Because this podcast wouldn't exist without you. Oh my gosh. About two years ago. So it would've been February 12th, I think. Yeah, yeah. 2022 or 2023. One day you were talking on your stories about, uh, having a.
Mid month motivation. Yes. Do you remember that? Yeah. Oh, we always, you need it. Yes. So you were, I was listening to you and I was like, that's gonna be my first podcast episode. Oh, I love, love that. The, I listen, you said that went home and I hit go and I, my very first podcast was mid month Motivation.
Thanks to you. It's so important. Everyone throws in the towel mid month. Yeah, it's, yeah. I scream it from the rooftops. Yeah. As we dive in today, I would love for you to share with people a little bit about your path as an unconventional woman, getting to where you are in your business, in your life. Uh, tell us a little bit about your story.
How did you get here? So, well, I can go all the way back. My parents were like, let's go and, you know, go to university. So they sent me to the University of Saskatchewan and I could not understand what we were doing there. Like, I could not, when they're, you're like in an, uh, anthropology class or you're learning about all these different things.
I was just, I don't understand this. Like, what, how, what is this? You know? Yeah. I didn't understand university. Like, I was like, it just felt like the next thing and. Luckily, and I always call these like a god wink. Things will just come into my life and like reroute me whether I like it or not. And so I got this phone call.
I had already been discovered as a model. Modeling tends to be so 2D, like it's the body and, and really that's it. And so I was kind of told you're not thin enough. We were in and I think we're back in it, that real scary skinny is like elitist. Um, yeah. And I think we've circled right back there, but that's what I was growing up in and they were kind of like, you're not thin enough.
And so I was like, maybe modeling isn't for me. That was kind of like that. My modeling agent said, there's a movie coming to town, um, will you read for it? And I have no acting experience. Uh, but I had modeled and so I thought it was gonna be more like a go see where you go, you physically stand on the mark and, and it was like, oh no, there's lines and there's a reader and there's a director.
You know? And I'm like, I had botched that first edition, so I didn't even learn the lines 'cause I didn't know what was going on. No, it was so out of body. And so my agent calls me back and she's the loveliest still to this day. I am like, she was put in my life for a reason. She's like, you have a callback.
Learn the lines, Jillian, and go do it. So I do it. I end up being on set opposite Ryan Reynolds in a movie called Just Friends. It was the first thing I'd ever booked my first edition. And what I realized, and I was like struggling with an eating disorder at the time, is that you have to be so present to be an actor.
You can't be in the past, you can't be in the future. You have to be in that moment. And it kind of like saved my life a little bit in the sense of the art of being an actor and the training of being an actor is the art of being in the present moment. Wow. And so anything that's pulling you into your baggage or your habit body or something that's false will read false on camera.
And so it's a really, and people think like, oh, you're going to be an actor. You're going to be someone else. You're really in this deep dive of like, how much can I strip away so I can add another nervous system to my body? So then I go into. Like 16 years of training of being an actor. So much rejection.
There's times I would give up. I, I went to Las Vegas and studied with Bikram. I danced in Mexico. I had all these like different things that I would do. I worked at Virgin Radio. Wow. I got my degree in theater from Simon Fraser, so like. Throughout it of being an artist, I would still train and educate and, and learn.
Um, but like basically in the pandemic, so I was shooting the show Supernatural and with acting comes great highs and great lows and I was in a great high. Yeah. And I was going into teach a two week kids camp, so I had always taught acting at a school. This is also like a god wink. A man that I met, that I did a play with, he opened a school with 12 kids and it ended up being the biggest acting school in Vancouver.
And he brought me on year one in his living room with like seven kids. So I had taught years and years, but I was at burnout with teaching like I was now, you know, when you notice like something that sparked joy, I'm now resenting, I don't want to do it. And I started to not be able to trade time for money and feel valued.
And so, um. We redid like the craziest phone call to a cousin's cousin in Saskatchewan. Yeah. And uh, if you, if my 2019 person could talk to my 2020, you would say like, no, because I would never do Arbonne. I would never have a business. Like I would never leave Vancouver. Right. So it's like all these strange things and, and we get on the phone with her and she's explaining to me what this business model was.
And I don't know what it was, but I was like, I can do this. I can build this. I thought it was. Easy. It's not easy, but it is simple. It's a very simple business, and so I skyrocketed that business right in year one with so much success, and I had never seen money like that. I had never seen abundance like that, and I'd never seen that.
I was in control of it. Acting you are completely not in control. Whether it's like the director's decision networks decision, you can be the be I know some of my friends are the best actors and they don't work to this day. Like they're phenomenal in class. Like, I'm like, bow on Union, Oscar, and they will not be on the screen because it's not really, it's not like effort based, talent based.
So, uh, when I found this other business, I was like, this is so. Easy compared to being an actor, right? And so I skyrocketed that business. I get bored easily as a manifesting generator. So once I mastered that business, I'm now duplicating with other people, but it's less in my control at the top, obviously.
So then I, we built Young Actors HQ two years ago. A girl that was coaching my Hallmark edition said to me, do you wanna open a school? And she is the epitome of like, she has a spreadsheet. She's so knowledgeable like her, the backend, the emails that she does, the tracking that she does for our taxes. A dream.
Totally. She is, and she's also so talented as an act. But we are completely different. Like I can have vision, branding, marketing all day, so we really compliment each other. And that business has been like our baby of growing something that's so different than network marketing. Yeah, it's your own. And so it lives in a whole different world for me.
Um, and then when, well, we're almost at the end of this like psychotic story, but I feel this part is important. Um, I was pregnant like seven months pregnant with my second baby. They told me you'll never get pregnant, like 0% chance. And then I. Naturally got pregnant with her. Really? And she rerouted our whole life because we got evicted from my apartment, seven months pregnant.
My sister-in-law at the time had bought a, a house here, and we were like, so looking for those roots, you know, in Vancouver it can feel, especially not with family clothes. Like, yeah, what are you buying for a million dollars? And, and, and tiny at the time, yeah, there was like. Bidding and there were so many things, it just felt like pushing us out a little bit of bc which is so sad 'cause I still to this day miss it.
And that's where I grew myself. But we came here, we bought a house and I was like goodbye to my acting career. And I remember mourning it 'cause I knew the Vancouver agency moved me to the Calgary branch and I was like, well, is there filming Calgary? Like, okay. Like I was like, I guess it's over. And I felt kind of an imposter syndrome owning an acting school but not acting.
Mm-hmm. So. The script comes to me. This is the Colleen Hoover script, and I was like, I love this. I love this writing. I love a story of redemption. I love a story of forgiveness. I think it's so important and, and it's how you elevate in your whole life. You cannot hold a grudge, and I knew that it was like a female producing crew, so.
They, they said, you're going to the executive producer. This is last year, this time. And I freaked out. I was like, I'm deleting everything about Arbonne. I don't want multi-level marketing hate. I'm embarrassed. So my frequency wasn't actually ready to receive what the universe wanted me to do in that moment.
It was a bigger role. I end up meeting the producers and I'm reading for them in the callbacks, and it's like a female team. And they're like, you're so funny. They were giving me like speaking life over my acting career, which I needed, and I was like, oh, I'm not done. Like, I'm not done being an actor and like, I can do this in Alberta in a different way than I ever did it in Vancouver.
Um. And then, and then this last, so like now we've come all the way a year later, just being in Los Angeles at the, the red carpet, I, now, I can't go back. And so I'm so restless right now in my frequency of like, I, I have to do this now. And I don't know even how or what that looks like, but I'm like bored and I cannot stay where I'm at anymore.
I think yeah, from the outside everyone can feel it for you. Yeah. Like you have already created so much success, but you are meant to be a star. For sure. I just said that to you right when you were on the, I was like, you, your energy, your presence, everything about you, your heart, and I I from the outside, you can tell that, that this is just like the beginning of the start.
Yeah. Of, of something really exciting. It's not even like stardom that I chase. I really like. So my acting coach is very close to God and I've had like a convoluted relationship. My parents are so religious, not my, my mom. Yeah. And so the word religious, but I definitely feel like I get spoke to and I feel like there's something so much bigger than all of us.
Especially when you have your children. I do believe, but I. Was like, I, she said I was going to this table read recently for Netflix, and there was one of my favorite actors from Gossip Girl gonna be sitting, you know, next to me. And my nervous system kind of wasn't ready, and now I'm fully ready. Yeah.
Like after that LA experience, I'm like, well, we're good. Yeah, let's go. Well, yeah, you, I calibrated to it, but I, you know, I was ramping up and I, and my acting coach was like, can you just ask God why you're in that room? Just ask. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, I guess I, you know, and you need those people in your life.
Yeah. She's such, such a mentor to me. So I go and the, the executive producer starts crying while she's reading the script. It's such a powerful script of family and of what's important in life. And then the full download or like the, the voice that I heard was like, you can tell good stories and you're supposed to, and I was like, oh, like, because Hollywood is dark and Hollywood is dangerous and if you know, you know, but it's like there's still sides of it that are wonderful.
Yeah. And that are beautiful. Yeah. And it's not even that I'll chase the stardom, but I think I'm meant to tell those stories and I'm meant to be in those rooms and collaborate. In those in those ways. Yeah. It's like a calling on your life. It's a call. Yeah. Like I literally, literally moved to Alberta.
Like I'm all like, I'm like RIP my acting career lay you down and Alberta brings me the shit like I didn't know how happen. So one of the questions I have for you is about manifesting because there's so many times. When it looks like it's not gonna work out. Oh, always to Alberta. And I've heard you say as well, you've had to do a lot of personal development inside of becoming an actor.
Yes. So what would you say to someone that's maybe on their own journey of had this calling on their heart and they felt like, this is what I'm supposed to do, but then the universe takes them on a total left turn and they're like, okay, well I guess. That's not happening now. Yeah. What would your manifesting advice be to them?
The first manifestation I ever did, I think this is important, is I put Isha Barton on the Really? It was like her on a vision board. Right. And I was at the University of Saskatchewan. Was this when the OC was big? The OC just ended. Oh. But she, that show that is what I ultimately want, is like a show with a family that I've, I've always seen myself in that way.
Yeah. And I was like, oh, well this is. You know, and so then I got this phone call from my Saskatchewan agent saying, Misha Barton needs a double. And so I got to be her double kind of in like a sea list movie type deal, right? But she was on my vision board and I remember thinking I did, I think I did that.
Like how, why is she in Saskatchewan? Why? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So then what I know now, like especially with all those five years of building. Which is so weird as an actor, right, is that I needed to build up the muscle in myself of the confidence and like putting myself out there online, navigating the duality and all those things.
So sometimes you'll be taken down a different path. And now when I look on hindsight's always 2020, but I was like, I had to bolt, arb, bonnet, or it gave me so much financial security. It gave me so much confidence. It taught me to network because yeah. I do believe in manifesting, but I also believe like you have to take the aligned action.
You have to have those handshakes. You have to visibly and physically make those real relationships, and they cannot be surface. I'm so glad. Or you won't. Nothing will happen, right? And so for me, everything in my life is who I know. And it's bridging the right people together and doing it with wanting nothing.
Like if I think this will help your life, I'm like, you should meet this photographer. You should meet this person. I will always bridge your life. And like one of the one person I just worked with, she's like, are you my agent? Like I have 17 people hiring me now, but I'm like, no, you do such good work for me in the backend.
I tell everyone. Because you, you've changed my life, right? So it's always authentic that I'm going to put you forward or connect you. Yeah. But from those connections, and of course I'm thinking of like, I wanna be on the show. I wanted this. But there's all these little micro universes that get you to that bigger spot.
Yeah. And so just like leaving people better than you found. Actually taking the time to get to know them. Yeah. And putting your phone down if you're ever with me. People are always like, oh, you're always on your phone. It's like, if I'm with you, I'm never on my phone and I won't be. It's true. It's, yeah.
You've been, I've achieved it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I won't. And it, because it's like that's where we're talking, like that's where we're having conversations that matters so much more. And again, it always goes back to that first role of like the present moment. Right. Is where everything happens. It's not on your phone, it's not in a D, it's gonna be like person to person and it might be the person at your coffee shop, like you don't know.
Yeah. So you just have to go through life knowing that every person is, is for a reason, and leave them better then you found them and help them in their life if you can. Yeah. You know, and so the manifesting for me is always like, I know I have it obviously on the back of my computer screen. Like she was like, why is there a Netflix picture of like your hand?
Like it's like some random actor on Pinterest, but I'm like. I have to see it quite frequently. Um, and then in the dips and in the lows and in the hard times, I always think it's like I'm stretched and I'm learning something, and if I don't learn it, I can't handle that level of success. Yeah. So I, yeah.
And I hate them. I hate to be in a dip, especially as like a go-getter. Yeah. I'm like, how can I hustle my way out of this? And like, I can't. Well, that's why you come tap with me. Yeah, that's what you, me, those blocks so funny because that's exactly where I found with. The people that I work with. Yeah, we were just talking about that before you actually, you know, women like us, hustle, hustle, hustle.
But I always say, you have to release, relax, then you receive a percent. And it's, it's that what do we do in that moment? And uh, for me it's always been tapping, but it's any somatic practice love that gets you, you back into the body. Right? It gets you back into that present moment, like you said. And one thing you said about the connections, I, I, I wanna circle back to that because I remember in 2020 having it was like the gold rush for me because Me too.
Yeah. Right. Oh. I was like, gwa, like, calm down. Yeah. Even calm down. Yeah. And like for me, I'm in the coaching industry, so mm-hmm. Selling, tapping in 2020 was like selling shovels in a gold rush. Like I love it. Amazing. Yeah. Um, but then I, I noticed the dip of course, and. I remember like doing the manifesting practices, but still feeling like something was missing.
And then what you just said was connections. I went back and looked at, what did I do? I went to events. Yeah, of course. Met people. Meet people. Yes. That you don't know. Yes. And specifically like, um, Lindsay Marie, who does powerhouse women. Okay. I went to her. Then half my friends ended up being there, opened up, like, that's why we're here today.
Because I was like, oh, I saw Lindsay doing in person. Let's do that. Wow. And so I just feel like that's a really important thing. It is, is like, get out of your circle, especially if. If someone's in network marketing, right? Yes. Because it's so easy to go to the network marketing events or of course retreats, but, and I love that you've also done that with the content retreat.
That That, yes. Yeah. Um. Thank you so much for sharing that story. And one of the other questions I had was about unconventional parenting. Yeah. And being a mom, while being a star and building and going after your dreams, what are some things that you would recommend to other women who are very driven and ambitious, but also just love their baby?
Of course, they, they nurtures at heart. What have you found is, I, I don't like the word balance, but how have you, um, done it? Honestly with, with both, I think, yeah, like the word balance is so important. I think you have to go outta balance. So there was times when I was building to the six figure, and I find that it's harder when you're getting it off the ground.
I like to think of it as a plane, as like it needs momentum. That business needs momentum. And in those times you have to go off balance. And so the business was number one, I'd get up at five, I'd be on Zoom till midnight, like, and it's not healthy and it's, and people won't do it because they're like, I just want balance.
I just want balance. It's like you'll have unlimited amount of free time and resources, but you gotta build it first. And if you. Don't build it. And I go through seasons where I'll be like, and right now it needs another push. And it's, it's just truthful. And you have to be able to remove the emotion from it and go like, I'm in a building phase.
They'll remember like, okay. Yeah. And then I have endless time with them. I think of if I was at a nine to five, I'm not picking them up, I'm not at home. Like if I'm on a Zoom call and they're watching a show, it's not the end of the world that's. Always gonna be a Zoom call at that time, but there's times when I'm building it and there's times when I'm just with them and I just make sure that you know that they're the priority.
But at the same time, I don't give myself like so much guilt when I'm in a build phase, and I know it's gonna pay back 10 times, so I'll always. Do it with grace, but also it's out of balance. Yeah. And people probably from the outside are like, oh, that's, she's leaving them again. She's on a plane, she's working till midnight.
Like they're gonna judge you. And that's okay because they may not, they may want to work their nine to five, or they may wanna be a stay-at-home mom and not bring in six, seven figures. That's okay. Yeah. And so just allowing everyone to find their own rich and their own, you know, calling in life. And then just don't worry about what other people are thinking.
So I think that's the biggest thing is like, and I just don't use them as an excuse. They come like, if I need them to come somewhere, they come, they know I have to work. Yeah. I'll say, okay, I'll get you dinner after this, whatever it is. But it's like they can just be part of the growth and the evolution and they're not separate.
I think there's so much, uh, on Instagram. I see. Two hours a day. I only, you know, I work one hour a day and it, it's lovely. Yeah. And it's a lovely thought and, and I enjoy it. I'm not like, oh my God, I'm working. I'm like, oh, it's all synergistic. My whole day flows. Yeah. And as I'm selling and as I'm showing you things and as I'm going to events, I'm not like, now this is a working hour and this is a parenting hour.
Yeah. It's all the same to me. And because of that work life. Balance. I feel like I've been able to scale everything so much more and then I hire, so as soon as it's too much, I have to delegate. And it's always scary 'cause you're giving away your resources, obviously. But those hiring moments for me always scale so much, as long as it's the right person.
This is so helpful for people to hear because I remember, um, when I had my daughter when I was 19, oh, it's so, she grew up with me. With me. So she grew up with me. She built my business with me. And I remember, uh, other people in my family resent. I remember other people in my family sort of resenting, uh, their parents for working.
Of course. And so one of the main messages I used to say to Mira is like, we get to do this. Yes. Right? Like, we get to do this together and it's fun. And I love how you've also done that. Like you brought them a part of it. Yeah. But we were in Banff, the girls were there to have them there. Yeah. And you also attract the right people, right?
Mm-hmm. That clients mm-hmm. That also are like, you're giving me permission to do that. Yeah. And you don't have to feel bad about your child. They're not a problem. Like, and, and, and this was really nice in, in the network bus network marketing business. I meant family is the most important to that company.
Yeah. And because of that, we can bring them to every. Thing. Wow. Yeah. So we can bring them to Vegas, we can bring them on. Every trip I go on, they come and people will be like, oh, I wanna leave my kids at home. I'm like, I feel like I just prefer them to be with me, even though if I have to go and whatever, I must do.
I, I'm like, I'd rather them be there and they allow it. So I was like, oh. And when I saw that, I was like, this is great. That's amazing. So nice. Yeah, it's easier. So speaking of the network marketing pieces, um. Someone that might have stigma around network marketing. Mm-hmm. Actually, funny enough, Arbon was one of the first things I did when I got online.
Crazy. I started years ago and then tapping, I mean, that's like my soul's calling. Yeah. And so I, I went into that. But I love the products, still use the products to this day. Mm-hmm. And I love that you're an example of someone, like you said, an unconventional woman that can do multiple things. No. Yes. Like you can, you can do more than one thing.
So what would you say to somebody that, uh, has stigma around it? It just comes down to asking, I think questions. I think the stigma comes from like, uh, if you are stuck on an auto ship, I think that is a little bit tricky for people because if they have, you know, their mortgage coming out and groceries coming out and they're doing this to make money, and all of a sudden they have a $400 spend and you didn't let them know, that's where that.
Is coming from. Yeah. And then if there is, you have to buy something every month. I think that's a little bit tricky. I remember when I was really sick with Atlantic and I just didn't buy anything for three months. I was puking, you know, I was just very sick. Couldn. Yeah. I couldn't move. Um, and I remember thinking, this is so nice because it's like, I actually don't have to, I mean, I do buy something every month because it is part of the business.
It's. 30 day consumable. Yeah. But it's my choice. Yeah. Which I love that. So there's certain things in network marketing I think that get spoke of like, oh, the legs. So like if these people that are working within my organization don't do x, I don't get paid. I think that does cause a lot of tension with women.
And so that doesn't exist. And so it's like when you're in a specific network marketing business, it's finding out what is the monthly spend, what is the minimum spend? If those are all nos for me, it's so easy to work this business because. Essentially when someone else wins, you win. And so there is no competition, there is no pressure.
So have people that wanna do, you know, they wanna make $200. I'm like, wonderful for you, you wanna make, I, I wanna make 20,000. Wonderful for you. Yeah, I wanna make, you know, a hundred thousand a month. Wonderful for you. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Because it really is their decision and you are just there to help them.
And so that kind of takes away all the things. But if you look at from the outside and you're just pulling every single network marketing business into the same bucket, of course those are the, the judgments. So it's, for me, it's always just comes down to questions. And then I, this business though, the one that I'm in, it's a family.
So like you can see the sun is still there and you know that his dad built this in the eighties when there was nothing was about non-toxic. Yeah. So. You're building his dad's dream and his dad's tree is in Maui, like an Arbonne tree. Wow. Yeah. So like you, you see the family and you see their pictures and you see his dad had such big vision in the eighties to empower women.
And so, uh, yeah, and I did all this work last year where I was like, now I can see so clearly. I feel like as an actor and as I step into bigger platforms, I'll just partner with them. I'll make products with them. Amazing. Favorite company. Yeah. And yesterday the head of marketing called me like, it's such a cool collaborative, even though it's so close to a billion dollars, it feels like a little tiny startup.
That's so cool. Especially when you're at the top. Like that's why I only want to build to the top, is to connect. Yeah. To know what's going on, what's gonna launch, how we're gonna launch it. And they give you so much freedom. They're so lovely. They pay you so well. And there's nothing, there's nothing bad in it, but.
Yes. If you put them all together, like I wouldn't like Yeah. To be told like, if you don't hit your bonus, this person above me doesn't get paid. I don't think that feels good. It's similar to the coaching industry, right? Correct. Like people can be like, the coaching industry is corrupt, blah, blah, blah. But it's like, yes.
Well there's a lot of people in that industry. Yeah. Everyone is the same. Yes. Yes. And one of the things you are brilliant at is marketing. And that's the other thing. Yeah. So fun that I wanted to talk about today because um, I have a mastermind manifesting in marketing. Yes. And that's something that.
You're brilliant at. And so when it comes to Instagram and the online space specifically, what is your sort of predictions about where things are going? What do people, what are the do's and don'ts when it comes to social media? So we're in such a dip right now, which I hate to use that word. I don't even wanna look at it.
I'm, I don't wanna. I wanna just be in full abundance, like you said, I don't even want, yeah. My shoulders get tight. I don't even wanna think about it. Yeah. But I think economically we're just in a different time Yeah. Than we were five years ago, which is okay. So I think people are gonna crave connection.
Mm-hmm. Over fast consumption and they're gonna watch where they put their money more. So you gotta make it worth it for them. Yeah. So I think long form, I also have been like called, I need to bring my podcast back because it's when I can speak in. Long terms and explain something that you're really having those deeper connections.
Whereas like when it's so fast, buy this, get this, buy this, we're done. Like I yesterday I was like, I think I can't do brine collapse anymore. Drained. I couldn't believe it. It was like that was my dream for so long, you know, to be an in Prince Lemon. Yeah. Lulu Lemon. All right. See, put it on. And I still love it, but I said yesterday, this isn't right anymore.
I don't wanna do it. Wow. Which is such a weird, yeah. But I think it's also a disillusion where it's like, oh, I do UCG. It's like, but how much are you actually making? Right. This is also what I think is people are, it's so fake online where it's like, I had an 80 K month, but did you like, and you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. And it's, and I never, I will not do anything fake. I will not tell you something that's not real on that platform, because I think people work so hard. They're doing so many hours of halls. And if you knew what those influencers are making you would be appalled. Really? I think so that, I mean, I think there's some that make great money, but I think there's some that are like buying a ritzy or returning it, getting the, you know what I'm saying, like blowing smoke a little bit.
Like it's, I think, I think it's not even their fault. I think it's our consumerism culture of like a quick link to this commission. The thing for me that's always drives me crazy and I think this is why I cannot do it anymore, is like it's attached to that link. So it's a one-time commission. Mm-hmm. You have to keep, it's just there's no leverage.
Yeah. There's no scaling. And for me, like everything in network marketing is scaling everything in the acting business scales. Everything is an actor scales, so it's like I, I think I just. Yesterday I was like, my freak, like I can't do this anymore. Yeah. I was like, why is this happening to me? I've used to chase this.
And that's in, it's important for people to, to know that are, that are on social media. Like do you have a model that can scale? Do you have the right people around you that can show you how to scale? Yes. So you think that's gonna be very important at that end, it sounds like heart and connection and authenticity, like I think it's gonna be a relationship.
So how can you take your brand? And I've been talking to Arbon about this, like how can we take this big global brand and bring it offline? And so that's why we've started like a monthly meetup. We did a dinner club, we're gonna do matcha and movement. Like how can I take my online presence offline? Yes.
As much as possible in the real world. Yeah. Um, and that's what we're doing with the acting school. We did a popup in LA last year. We do a popup in Vancouver. I'm flying to Vancouver in May for real life. Yeah. Like the agents are gonna come in real life and they're gonna see the kids. Yeah. Because I think you have to take your brand offline.
I think we're sick of it. Yeah. I think we're sick of the phone. I think we're sick of being sold to. Yeah. So it's like what's gonna move the needle in your business is going to be your relationships. Yeah. I think And leveraging social media for relationships. Yeah, a hundred percent. And making sure those systems are all set up to scale.
I'm always like, we just built all new systems. It took a year and a half and it's been so painful, but I was like, if 200 people join my business tomorrow, I cannot. I can't do it. Right. So asking yourself if 200 people tomorrow want this product and want to sign up and do this business, or want to join the acting school, do we have the capacity to hold something like that?
The answer was no. Mm-hmm. So that's what we've been building and every, like even today, Sabina, who bless Horror works my backend. She did all my Manny chat today and I was like, I know because I'm missing every new follower. I don't talk to them, obviously. And she was like, we're gonna build a system.
Amazing. And so it's like knowing where I'm, that's my weakness. Like I don't wanna build a system. I don't want a robot to talk to me like I don't like it. Yeah. But I also know I'm one person. Yeah. And so for me, people, you still mind. Correct. So the systems must scale and they must be bigger than me to support a bigger dream than just my dream.
And that requires a team. It does. Yeah. Yeah. Big team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people. So important for people to know. Mm-hmm. Because it's easy to think people, to think, oh, it's just so easy for them. And it's like there's a whole, it's a lot of work to do content. Oh, it's a cool, oh, it's a lot of work. Yeah.
Yeah. And I'm like, and I don't wanna do it anymore, which is so fascinating to me. Interesting. I love it. Yeah. I wanna talk to you on the camera and I want to, I love to show up throughout my day, like a digital diary. I think. I think it's so fun. Document. I love it. I love it. But I don't wanna, I don't wanna try on clo.
I don't wanna do any of it. It's so strange. Things. Yeah. I dunno. Well, we're excited to watch you to see where you make it because you are one of the best. And, um, two questions I ask everyone that come on the podcast. Mm-hmm. Number one, what did you have to release in order to receive where you are today?
So much of the people around me. Yeah. Yeah. I like all, yeah. So many were so judgmental, especially Arbonne. That's a hard one for 'em to swallow. That's, and I never asked any of my friends or family to do it. And un truthfully, none of my friends or family do it. I don't need them too. No. I always wanted to build something so much bigger than me.
Yeah. And I wanted to build it with the people that want it, and I never wanted to force a single person into anything. So there, there was a lot of judgment when that first happened. I find each time I level up even this reminders of him, I'm. Noticing people are like, right. Yeah. It's a whole different level for me.
And yeah. So it's, the hardest part to me is like, the people that you thought would be like are not so different. They don't like it. They don't like, yeah. They don't like it. Yeah. And the strangers are like, this is the best thing ever. Yeah. And so it's, it's so hard because I, I'm always like, I wanna bring.
Everyone with me, with me, everyone. Like, if you are doing well, then we're doing well. You know, that is my mentality. Um, and I was like, and I can't. Yeah. And it's so hard. It's so sad. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm trusting who's on my path right now, and as I, as I'm building, is the right people. Yeah. And it's okay to go.
And to elevate and to leave whatever leaves. It's so funny you said that I have been, um, uh, getting into real estate. So I, cool. I opened a real estate company in America for black multifamily properties. Wow. And I called it Elevation Properties. But it's funny because that's, I've had the same feeling like, doesn't everyone wanna do this with me?
But it's like, no, sometimes. And that's part of what you said, like there's certain things that you're called to do. Yes. And you're like, everyone come, but sometimes you are just meant to do it. Yes. Uh, and and it's okay. And it's okay to let people go. Yeah. And how it would look. Yeah. 'cause if you would've told me, and, and I do think that I'll scale Arbon and the acting school to quite big levels and I will.
Put that money back and make movies. Yeah. So it's like, what? How would you ever, like, you know, you, I could have thought like, oh no, it's gonna be like, this show will get me to this show. You know, you have this like linear version. Yeah. Where it's like these two random, well, not random, but these two businesses are gonna be, why make my own movies like that makes no sense.
Yeah. Right. So it's like you actually have to let go of the picture perfect. Of how you thought it was gonna be built. You have to release your attachment to the Yeah. Like you have to be like, oh, well this is a whole Totally okay. Yeah. I love it. Question. If you were to fill in the blank, the woman I'm becoming is, how would you finish that sentence?
Where do you see yourself in the next three to five years? If Jillian three years from now is gonna watch this clip back, how would you finish that sentence? The woman I'm becoming is, I think like limitless. I think I can do, I think there'll be no limits. I think I could have a house in la. I think I could work on a big show.
I think I could. I think I can blow up. The whole arbon business, so it has celebrity reach. I think I can do all that. And so it's like, I used to be like, I don't want visibility. I could feel that last year as I, as I told you, that story of walking into that table read, I was like, I'm gonna delete my whole Insta.
Like I was really fearful. Yeah. And so I did so much work last year on visibility. Yeah. And what that means to be visible. Yeah. Because there's duality in it of being judged and, and all the things. I think I'm okay. I think it's okay. And I think let them judge. Yeah. And they will. Yeah. Um, but I think I'm okay to be visible because I know I'll be building something powerful.
So I think it's like anything can happen when you're okay with being perceived. However you're gonna be perceived. And I'm not gonna rewrite the narrative. I'm just gonna let it be like so often on Instagram. I think before I would like, oh, I don't like that comment. So I would fight it in my stories where now I don't even acknowledge it.
It gives no power. It's okay. You can think whatever you want of me. That's okay, because I know, you know, like I know I'm doing good things. I have zero Ill Yeah. Intention. Yeah. You know who you are, what you're doing. Yeah. There's nothing that you could be, you can be mad at me, you can have opinions, whatever.
So I feel so free to create, because now. Now that I'm allowing myself to be visible, don't need to hide anymore or be scared of what I think I was super scared last year of like, oh my gosh, this business, that something's gonna happen if I let myself be bigger than what I was. I think this is relatable.
It's, it's something when I tap with people, I, I tap with parts of self. I always, oh, I you that sees the vision is like full. Forced ahead. And then there's usually a part of you that's scared. Yes. And it's like you worked with that part of you that was scared, but it look at, that's one year later, look what's manifested.
Mm-hmm. And so it's, I think, important for people to hear that. You know, sometimes we gotta look at the parts of self that are, have to not as pretty, that are scared, but. We love and accept them. Yes. And they flourish. This is, this is, yeah. Yeah. It's your nervous system being like, please don't do anything new.
Whoa. But then I get so bored, so I'm like, no, it's, you're okay. Like you can do new things. You'll live, you know. You're okay. Expansion. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Jillian, for coming today. It was such an honor to have you on our podcast, wealthy Wealthy Woman Icons Podcast of Stephanie Rose. This whole event was put on by Stephanie, her amazing team myself, and we are so honored to be able to.
Have you on our show, so happy to be here, have you as the local celebrity featured. And I have no doubt. Like I said, we all know that you are, you are going to the stars and you're doing it with so much heart and integrity. So thank you. God bless you. Well, thank you. Thank you so much for listening to the podcast today.
It was such a great interview, and I'm so happy that we got to announce the Manifesting and Marketing Mastermind. It is a whole new, brand new mastermind that is going to really shape how you go through this next year and how much you can actually achieve, because I think we put. These huge things on our vision boards, and then it's like really hard to actually complete all of these things, and that's how you do it with a team, with people who can help you actually get past the things that are gonna stop you and continue on.
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From wherever you're at. Yeah. 'cause we did have people who were starting brand new, like didn't even have a website yet, and we had people who had been in business for 10 years. Yeah. And it's really important that whenever you're in a growth stage, you get help. And you get that backing team. Right. Um, we talked about that in the interview as well.
As soon as you're in a growth phase, you have to really like lock in and do more. Mm-hmm. And that's how we do that. And without burning out with the tapping like the mark my words, this will change the industry. Yeah. There is nothing in the industry like this, the marketing and the manifesting together. I had never seen it done all in one and.
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